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Winged Demons

Post by dr4ko on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:08 pm

Anybody know what of the most popular SIN demon's summons have the bonus of Winged?


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Re: Winged Demons

Post by denul on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:53 am

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devil of the abyss
devil of endless night
beezle
paimon
deep dark demon

i've been humming and hawing over whether to go all winged or use paimon/asura. the paimon agi is very nice to have on hand.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by Mortium on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:02 pm

Always going to be a tough choice. Is Kali winged too?

Winged Demon could do with a decent Agility Up to make it truly awesome. Pit is starting to be a bit dated.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by kyan on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:16 pm

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devil of the abyss
devil of endless night
beezle
paimon
deep dark demon

i've been humming and hawing over whether to go all winged or use paimon/asura. the paimon agi is very nice to have on hand.

Paimon agi? Is there any agi spirit? I thought there wasn't. If you can give paimon agi. Winged combo wins over pai/asura.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by kyan on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:23 pm

Mortium wrote:Always going to be a tough choice. Is Kali winged too?

Winged Demon could do with a decent Agility Up to make it truly awesome. Pit is starting to be a bit dated.

Agi is so important that there aren't that many choices for formation. That's a big fault in the current setup. Even AA teams without one are likely to lose. This coupled with achievement bonus only applying to in guild monster, there really isn't that much room to manuver for setup.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by Mortium on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:40 pm

I think he means that Paimon has a high agility to start, like asura.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by kyan on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:45 pm

Oh. That doesn't matter as you'll almost never run into a team without agility up unless they're stacked AA with maxed skills. In which case the AA has higher agi anyway.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by denul on Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:57 am

Mortium wrote:Always going to be a tough choice. Is Kali winged too?

Winged Demon could do with a decent Agility Up to make it truly awesome. Pit is starting to be a bit dated.

Kali isnt winged, the bestiary needs an update Smile

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by kyan on Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:21 am

Its not winged on bestiary.

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So winged impulse demon is out then without agi

Post by Cremaster on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:29 pm

So winged impulse demon is out then without agi?

Since Agi is quite overpowering even against AA teams, I mean that is there even any sane idea to start building a winged impusle demon team without agi in the first place even with the 5 combos active?

I got ATM in my team all lvl 70
ATK 42749
DEF 35486
HP 33097
BP 67
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Sear Djinn+ : Preemptive strike (7)
Beelzebub+ : Venomous Breath (5)
Child of Pit+ : Agility Up (6)
Lord of Faith+ : Increase Party Defence (7)
Firebrand Demon+ : Increase Party attack (3)
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think if this is any good, atleast I tend to win 90% of fights I get in to.

I'm training Devil of endless Night+ (39) with Decrease enemy defence (3)
And/or Kali of Massacre normal A : Psycho Down (1) but not sure of that since psycho down is blah.


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Re: Winged Demons

Post by dr4ko on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:37 pm

I run this team and is awesome.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by Cremaster on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:49 pm

dr4ko wrote:I run this team and is awesome.

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Um, you are using the same team structure as me?

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by sumdark on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:18 pm

My sin Demon Team:

leader: endless night 23 bp

Asura 22bp
Paimon 21bp
Kali 17bp
Pit 13 bp

Why?
Because i start against people without any agi monster And onehit them.
Skills
Agi up
Increase atk
Decrease Def
Psycho down
Covert down

So i dont need a dodge from
Ddd( and i thinks its even buggy bc opponent with dodge= they miss me. Its like they increase my dodge not theirs. Saw it in every fight till yet.

If all skills are 20 = opponent has -40 def , no matter if covert or psycho.

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Re: Winged Demons

Post by kyan on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:52 pm

Cremaster wrote:So winged impulse demon is out then without agi?

Since Agi is quite overpowering even against AA teams, I mean that is there even any sane idea to start building a winged impusle demon team without agi in the first place even with the 5 combos active?

I got ATM in my team all lvl 70
ATK 42749
DEF 35486
HP 33097
BP 67
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Sear Djinn+ : Preemptive strike (7)
Beelzebub+ : Venomous Breath (5)
Child of Pit+ : Agility Up (6)
Lord of Faith+ : Increase Party Defence (7)
Firebrand Demon+ : Increase Party attack (3)
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think if this is any good, atleast I tend to win 90% of fights I get in to.

I'm training Devil of endless Night+ (39) with Decrease enemy defence (3)
And/or Kali of Massacre normal A : Psycho Down (1) but not sure of that since psycho down is blah.

The winged team is great for beating raid bosses but against players its generally not. I would replace firebrand with at least abyss. Firebrand is cheap in terms of bp but abyss has much better stats and not that hard to get. Devil of endless night+ is much better than kali in terms of stat and skill while psycho down is minus to both attack and defense it starts at 1 and really expensive to level. Only really useful if you already have attack minus and def minus in your party to stack for larger bonus.

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