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How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Onds on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:55 am

Kickstarting this topic again with a quick edit. Please post how you value the different skills.

New list:

***** Agility Up
****. Increase Party Attack
****. Increase Party Defense
****. Decrease Enemy Attack
****. Decrease Enemy Defense
***.. Venomous Breath (potentially ***** if very high level)
***.. Impulse/Covert/Psycho Down (potentially ***** if team is built around it)
????? Preemptive Strike
????? Critical Rate up
????? Slumbering Breath
????? Increase Dodge Rate






Old list and thread:
I haven't noticed any other threads dealing with this subject, so i'm going to start one. The listed possible skills have been taken from Yosomono's bestiary. I'm going to list their worth based on my own assumptions (which is mostly guessing - thats where you, the community, comes in) and ranking the skills with stars (more is better).

Old list (pre skill level ups):
***** Venomous Breath (I)
****. Preemptive Strike
***.. Agility Up (I)
***.. Increase Party Attack (I)
***.. Increase Party Defense (I)
***.. Decrease Enemy Attack (I)
***.. Decrease Enemy Defense (I)
**... Critical Rate up (I)
*.... Slumbering Breath (I)



Notes:
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Venomous Breath (I): Hits hard, possibly ignoring defense. Does not miss.
Preemptive Strike: Allows you to get the first strike. (what happens when both sides have preemptive? - feedback please)
Increase party attack/defense & decrease enemy attack/defense: Good, as they apply to a whole team
Critical Rate up (I): Has a low crit percentage modifier, but better than slumbering i'm guessing. Info based on http://www.ds-forum.com/t954-critical-rate-up
Slumbering Breath (I): As far as i know its duration is too short to be of real value


Please post any feedback you may have.


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Not true

Post by SolShadows on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:33 pm

my beelz has a venomous breath it pierces through enemy defense or it just 1 hits. idk what it does but it has 1 hit koed maxed A+. I can 1 hit maxed djinn A+ with that skills, and he has 6 120 hp

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Another thing

Post by SolShadows on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:34 pm

Preemptive strike allows ur guy to get first attack

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Spazzoid on Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:00 pm

Venomous Breath is right up there with preemptive strike in my book. In fact, it might even be my favorite skill. Just like the poster before me mentioned, it cuts through defenses. I've had my beelzebub through hundreds of battles and his venomous breath has never missed once, I'm assuming it never misses.

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Onds on Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:15 pm

Great stuff. Not sure why i thought venomous breath was garbage then. I thought i had it at some point but i guess it must have been something else.

First post updated moving venomous breath at the same tier as preemptive strike. Keep the good info coming.

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by UnderGround on Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:36 pm

Spazzoid wrote:Venomous Breath is right up there with preemptive strike in my book. In fact, it might even be my favorite skill. Just like the poster before me mentioned, it cuts through defenses. I've had my beelzebub through hundreds of battles and his venomous breath has never missed once, I'm assuming it never misses.

i believe that is true too

mine never miss either
my thought is skill will always work even if its passive skills or active skills

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Onds on Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:40 pm

So, that's 2 posters reporting that venomous breath doesn't miss either. Updated first post with venomous breath as top ability Wink

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by SolShadows on Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:41 pm

Onds wrote:Great stuff. Not sure why i thought venomous breath was garbage then. I thought i had it at some point but i guess it must have been something else.

First post updated moving venomous breath at the same tier as preemptive strike. Keep the good info coming.


most monsters with venom breath have bad stats but are amazing. Idk if it pierces defense or if it instantly 1 hits. beelz only guy ik with that skill.

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Onds on Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:31 pm

Note:
This thread is old and the info in it is quite possibly void.

It would be great with new skill feedback though, preferably at higher levels (8-20).

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Mortium on Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:55 pm

Agi up is a 5 star skill. Without it, you can have the strongest team but still lose because 2 or 3 of your monsters get wiped out before they can even attack if the opponent has Agi Up.

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Onds on Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:36 am

Yeah, i agree. If you don't get to start the attack or at least have equal turns, you are much more likely to lose.

Made a new list in progress. Thanks for your feedback!

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by rekt on Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:38 pm

if you can get venom to skill level 20 or any high level you can do a good damage with anyone with that skill. I know 2 people with leshy+ and beelzebub+ with high level venom skill and are doing 3-4 times more damage for the first hit

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by rekt on Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:45 pm

if you have a all A/A+ team these are the skills that are recommended:

1-agility
2-decre def
3-incre atk
4-incre def
5-decre atk

**** you can defend against a couple of attacks and hit them as hard

now if you you have a decent total attack power between each monster and want to kill them in one hit, the best combination to have are:

1-agility
2-incre atk
3-decre def
4+5 - one of the Impulse/Covert/Psycho Down

if you have a all AA/AA+ team then agility don't matter since there are no agility AAs yet or spirits.

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Re: How good is my monsters skill?

Post by Onds on Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:50 pm

Good feedback.

Entered 4 stars for the in/dec skills. 3 for venom with a 5 in parenthesis if high skill. 3 for imp/cov/psy down with 5 in parenthesis if team is built for it.

Keep the feedback coming.

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